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  November 2014 WT - Points out the fact that Knorr supported false teachings.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  - it's amazing to track the confusion and stupidity contained in wt articles.

  - in only one watchtower you can find multiple contradictory statements, and representations of truth that are simply lies made up on the fly.

  - as an example the nov,15 2014 wt has the following quotes : -.

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  breakfast of champions

  Ok, researching this a little further with jwfacts.com and the original "Birth of a Nation" article, I think I have found a discrepancy (albeit one that is created by Watchtower writers). jwfacts notes:

  The 1260 days of Revelation 11:3 are not to be confused with the 1260 days of Revelation12:6. This second period is described as "extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class." Revelation - It's Great Climax is at Hand! p.184

  So there are actually two 1260 day periods (according to WT): the one in Rev 11 mentioned in the Nov 2014 article; and one in Rev 12 mentioned in the Birth of a Nation article in 1925.

  If I've missed something, let me know.

  Confusing as hell.
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  November 2014 WT - Points out the fact that Knorr supported false teachings.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  - it's amazing to track the confusion and stupidity contained in wt articles.

  - in only one watchtower you can find multiple contradictory statements, and representations of truth that are simply lies made up on the fly.

  - as an example the nov,15 2014 wt has the following quotes : -.

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  breakfast of champions

  Interesting. . . .
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  The limits of science.

  by Seraphim23 in

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  for a long time i have accepted that when a theist inserts god into some as yet not understood scientific matter, it constitutes a god of the gaps argument.

  as a theist myself, the problem with this for me, is that it implies an arbitrary limit on gods ingenuity.

  for example, the idea that god created automatic processes to do certain things in nature, and yet with other things the need for a direct hand to either tweak or directly organise!

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  breakfast of champions

  I am always puzzled by the way some people talk aboout "science" as if it was some kind of James Bond Villain.

  I think this is one of my all-time favorite JWN quotes! Thanks COFTY.

  I honestly think the reason science is regarded as "some kind of James Bond Villan" has much to do with the ignorance of the media who are reporting on science.
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  Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

  by label licker in

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  2. scandals
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  breakfast of champions

  I'm shocked you got anything back from them!

  Hell, at the very least you took 75 cents out of Tony the Turd's pocket!
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  The Watchtower and its absurd accusations against the Church Fathers

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i love to read the watchtower's article "the church fathersadvocates of bible truth?

  " (w01 4/15 pp.

  there we may read the most contadictory statements of the watchtower society, which shows how deceptive and ignorant is the jehovah's witnesses religion.. .

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  breakfast of champions

  This is great!
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  Corpus Linguistics - Text Analysis of All Watchtower Publications since 1800's

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been working on a side project for a while.

  the goal of the project is to create a comprehensive database of all publications throughout history.

  with this database i will be able to instantly find trends in text,sentiment of writing, methods used, and scriptures emphasized.. essentially i will be able to put a word like "apostate" into my tool, and instantly receive a report showing every time the word (or similar words) has been used in all publications since 1870.. i will also be able to create reports showing word density used in publications over time.. so i'll be able to see that the word "governing body" has increased in usage 25% year over year since 1975.. or i will be able to analyze the november 2014 wt and run an algorithm that helps to determine, what the tone and motive of the writing is.. the thing that i am most excited about is the ability to instantly find every occurence of a scripture in every publication.. this will be a great tool to find flip flops in doctrine as well as inaccuracies in biblical interpretation.. i will for sure publish all interesting findings here.. .

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  breakfast of champions

  You can do A LOT with a corpus.

  You could analyze negative semantic prosody. . . . . see how it's used with regards to "loaded language". . .

  Even analyze bullying tactics.

  Great stuff!
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  The Watchtower 11/15/2014

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://bayfiles.net/file/1jpu5/qhxxxl/w_e20141115.pdf.

  select "premium download".

  (thanks breakfast of champions).

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  breakfast of champions

  I see gallons of water. . . . What looks like sacks of grain/rice. . . And what looks like bottles of window cleaner - which makes perfect sense!
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  Something Big is Coming...

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

  "at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

  all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".

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  breakfast of champions

  I could definitely see them combining the Awake and Public watchtower into a jw.org magazine. The Study edition of the WT would continue to be published.
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  Where did Russell steal 606/7 BCE from ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is something i have wondered about, and our great poster stillin posed the question on another thread .

  russell get the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 606/7 bce?

  (he adjusted 606 to 607 when it was pointed out there was no year "0").. as in the main a plagiarist, rather than an original thinker, i guess he got it from someone else ?.

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  The Reason Why JWs Won't Leave The Cult Is Because They Won't Think!

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  they simply refuse to think, to reason, to ponder.

  they are lazy!.

  even if they might feel that something isn't right, they won't research an issue or a question.

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  breakfast of champions

  I agree that there is a huge chunk of JWs who are incapable of any meaningful cognition.

  However, I think it is more often the case that the average witness is not being completely honest with themselves.

  They refuse to be honest with themselves because it would just be too damn painful.